tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-297791664524797527.post4887008790496570095..comments2023-08-02T03:36:09.271-04:00Comments on Stop the radiation!: A great comment found on DIGG on DUladybroadoakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11525308772572314967noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-297791664524797527.post-11845618348332890022007-11-27T06:17:00.000-05:002007-11-27T06:17:00.000-05:00I see the person who claims to be a "lady" still i...I see the person who claims to be a "lady" still is neither lady nor informed. Too bad because she spends so much energy pushing false information. Reason you have not heard from me is that I was not reading mail for a week and have been quite busy - you are so misinformed -- all you need to do is go see your local college physics and chemistry professors and learn a bit about uranium. The aerosolized claim is pretty much nonsense -- uranium condenses from a gas to a solid at about 3000 degrees Centigrade. UNEP and IAEA have done field work and found that DU does not migrate far from the impacted armored target and that DU penetrators that do not hit the target generally remain intact and present little harm to anyone. Now, if you want to volunteer to go clear the desert, remember that you are far more likely to die from an IED or perhaps by being beheaded on camera. Those factors have tended to discourage a reasonable effort to assess and clean up the DU in the Iraq desert.<BR/><BR/>Roger Helbig<BR/>rwhelbig at gee mail dot com<BR/><BR/>Depleted Uranium in Bosnia and Herzegovina - Postconflict<BR/>Assessment http://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/BiH_DU_report.pd<BR/>f<BR/>* *<BR/>300 pg detailed UN Environmental Programme Report<BR/>http://postconflict.unep.ch/publications/BiH_DU_report.pdf <BR/><BR/>*Radiological Conditions in Areas of Kuwait With Residues of Depleted Uranium* <BR/>http://www-<BR/>pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub1164_web.pdf%20 <BR/>*<BR/>Includes Appendix III - Experiments to Examine Resuspension<BR/>http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub1164_web.pdf<BR/><BR/>*Uranium Emitted from Coal Fired Power<BR/>Plants* http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-<BR/>34/text/colmain.html<BR/>* *<BR/>Even U-235 is emitted from coal fired plants <BR/>http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html<BR/><BR/>*Los Alamos - Researchers find time in dusty polar<BR/>ice*<BR/>http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuseaction/home.story/story_i<BR/>d/1034<BR/>* *<BR/>Note that this uses measurements of "femtograms" - one quadrillionth<BR/>of a<BR/>gram -- same (except misspelled) measurement as that for Specialist <BR/>Matthew<BR/>Gerard of NY National Guard<BR/>http://www.lanl.gov/news/index.php/fuseaction/home.story/story_id/1034<BR/><BR/>correction the unit of measure for one quadrillionth of a gram is <BR/>the fem (with an M) togram, not fentogram (that is the spelling used by Juan<BR/>Gonzales in his NY Daily News article - Gonzales got his paper to have the NY Guardsmen tested by the UMRC which found this extremely low level of so-called DU -- more than likely <BR/>natural uranium in each of them. The health claims that they then make<BR/>sound more like a sitcom than real life.<BR/><BR/>*Guided Bomb Unit-28 (GBU-28) Bunker Buster - Smart<BR/>Weapons* http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/gbu-28.htm%20<BR/>* *<BR/>Bunker Buster Bomb - Federation of American Scientists - Note that<BR/>there is<BR/>NO DU in this bomb<BR/>http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/gbu-28.htm<BR/><BR/>Rokke and Moret claim that Israel used these DU tipped bombs in<BR/>Lebanon - Rokke went so far as to claim that the DU dust cloud would drift<BR/>across the Mediterranean and poison the island of Cypress. Note that there is <BR/>no DU in this bunker buster bomb -- then take a look at Miraki's claims again<BR/>about DU in Afghanistan .. Muhammed Daud Miraki is a con artist and he will<BR/>someday get his just due, but for now he is basking in the lecture <BR/>circuit with fellow con artists Rokke and Moret<BR/><BR/>*Army Environmental Policy Institute Report on<BR/>DU*<BR/>http://www.aepi.army.mil/Library/AEPI%<BR/>20Publications/DU/techreport.html <BR/>* *<BR/>This comprehensive report was requested in 1992 - It has in depth<BR/>discussion<BR/>of radiological and chemical properties of DU<BR/>http://www.aepi.army.mil/Library/AEPI% <BR/>20Publications/DU/techreport.html<BR/><BR/>*Documents - VA Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War<BR/>Illnesses*<BR/>http://www1.va.gov/RAC-GWVI/page.cfm?pg=13 <BR/>* *<BR/>Reports of this committee founded in 2002<BR/>http://www1.va.gov/RAC-GWVI/page.cfm?pg=13<BR/><BR/>What have researchers really found to be the cause of diseases <BR/>collectively<BR/>known as Gulf War Syndrome?<BR/><BR/>*RAND Literature Review on Health Effects of DU<BR/>1999*<BR/>http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/library/randrep/du/mr1018.7.pref.html<BR/>* *<BR/>Detailed Review by RAND Researchers<BR/>http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/library/randrep/du/mr1018.7.pref.html<BR/><BR/>*Screening for depleted uranium in the United Kingdom armed forces: <BR/>who<BR/>wants it and why? * http://jech.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/58/7/558<BR/>Kings College Study of UK Veterans Who Claim Exposure to DU<BR/>http://jech.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/58/7/558Rogerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04855892384323493219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-297791664524797527.post-25868901306881242342007-11-26T20:29:00.000-05:002007-11-26T20:29:00.000-05:00I think you may be exaggerating the science on thi...I think you may be exaggerating the science on this. Surely we shouldn't turn to folks like Moret and Rokke for answers, in any event. They are NOT experts, not to mention being extremely biased and agenda-driven. <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/news/na_harley_03jan00.html" REL="nofollow">Here</A> is an expert.<BR/><BR/>You know, <A HREF="http://prfamerica.org/RadioactivityInCigaretteSmoke.html" REL="nofollow">cigarette smoking</A> is a potent source of Alpha radiation too. I think vastly more potent than someone by chance inhaling a few tiny particles of aerosolized DU. Smoking is not good for you, although in moderation it may have some beneficial side-effects for prevention of certain diseases, but nobody talks about second hand or even first hand smoke in terms of being a 4.5 billion year threat to humans and the environment everywhere.<BR/><BR/>I don't think a few experiments in Petri dishes with heavy concentrations translate into real world complete human systems being at risk, at least at doses one could reasonably expect to receive as a by product of wars. <BR/><BR/>Go and snort DU dust daily over a period of years, howerver, and yes, that would likely be very harmful. <BR/><BR/>It's all in the dose.<BR/><BR/>You'd be far more productive to aim your guns at cigarette smoking, which actually has been documented to have been complicit in millions of deaths. DU has caused non.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15493149374308463570noreply@blogger.com